“Jungite aut Perite”

The Philadelphia Union logo, from Wikipedia.

The Philadelphia Union primary logo, from Wikipedia.

I’m really digging the “Don’t Tread on Me” snake. While “Philadelphia Union” wasn’t the name I voted for, it was much better than most of the other options. They’ve done a bang-up job with the logos, as well as with the club motto.

Now, if only Zolo management can do just as well when it comes to putting together a solid side… A Seattle Sounders-type start next year would be lovely, but that’s probably wishful thinking.


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6 Responses to ““Jungite aut Perite””

  1. 231 Says:


  2. “Jungite aut Perite” Says:

    […] Original post by ianheath653 […]

  3. Ace Athlete Says:

    Another great post. Keep it up, i have become a big fan of your blog…

  4. art kyriazis Says:

    There is no letter “J” in latin.

    “Jungite” is therefore wrong.

    For details, see my blog at http://pedrofeliz3b.wordpress.com/ and my entry AVARITIA BONA EST – THE NEW PHILADELPHIA SOCCER FRANCHISE TRIES TO SPEAK LATIN—AND GETS IT WRONG, OF COURSE….
    May 15, 2009 by pedrofeliz3b

    As Henry Beard, author of “Latin for Even More Occasions” (Villard Books, NY, 1991), states at p. 111 of his very humorous book,


    “J, W AND Y don’t exist in Latin.”

    Beard, Id. at p. 111.

    There is no letter “J” in the Latin language.

    I believe what the Sons of Ben meant to say was the following:


    As is well known to those of us who have either studied the arcana of the Latin language for several years (I won the Latin Prize at Haverford School) (twice, actually) (now I’m just showing off) (thanks to Steve Dall, by the way, a great Latin teacher), or have gone to Catholic School and been forced to take Latin,

    THERE IS NO J W OR Y in the Latin alphabet.

    The letter J is approximated by the vowel combination “IU” as in “Iuno,” “Iuvenal,” and so forth.

    Iungite, “Join!”, is the plural imperative form of iungo, with principal parts iungere, iunxi, iunctum, “I join” (from which we get many english cognate words such as “conjunction” or “injunction”). The imperatives are “iunge”, join!, singular, addressed to one person, and “iungite”, join!, addressed to two or more persons. (See J. Wohlberb, 201 Latin Verbs, Barrons, NY, 1964, at pp. 94 & 63, the verbs “iungo” and “eo”) (see infra).

    Consequently, the slogan should read:


    It’s worth noting that a simple fact check with a high school latin teacher would have caught this very simple error.

    It’s hard to believe this went to a press conference and is already out on the website, but is a horrible latin grammar and alphabetical error.

    –Dr. Arthur Kyriazis, M.Sc.E., Molecular Biologist

  5. HP Says:

    Regardless of the accuracy of the correction, I wonder what the word for humble is in latin… hum maybe there is not such a word or a thing!

    I’m sure the Union will be happy to accept your voluntary contributions.

  6. ianheath653 Says:

    I agree, HP. It’s highly pedantic at best. My alma mater issued its Bachelor of Arts degrees with diplomas written entirely in Latin. The school, wisely, did not alter anyone’s name on the degree if said name contained a “J” or “Y.”

    Also, scientific names are in Latin, and the letters “J” and “Y” pop up in a slew of those. I would’ve expected a biologist, of all people, to be aware of that.

    There’s a difference between Latin as it’s used today and Latin as it was used by the ancient Romans.

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